Ciarán Whelan, Éamonn Fitzmaurice and Irish News journalist Cahair O'Kane join Rory O'Neill to look back on another sobering weekend for Derry.
Can they still have a say in 2024? Armagh and Cork might be coming into form, while Dublin and Kerry are still look dangerously comfortable.
Louth and Monaghan produced an exciting conclusion at Clones while Donegal, following that defeat to the Rebels, might have piled up the fixtures for themselves in the coming weeks.
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